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Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

In June 1936 Max Hahn and his wife Emma were on a walk beside a waterfall near to London, Texas, when they noticed a rock with wood protruding from its core. They decided to take the oddity home and later cracked it open with a hammer and a chisel. What they found within shocked the archaeological and scientific community. Embedded in the rock was what appeared to be some type of ancient man made hammer.

A team of archaeologists analysed and dated it. The rock encasing the hammer was dated to more than 400 million years old. The hammer itself turned out to be more than 500 million years old. Additionally, a section of the wooden handle had begun the metamorphosis into coal.  The hammer’s head, made of more than 96% iron, is far more pure than anything nature could have achieved without assistance from relatively modern smelting methods.

In 1889 near Nampa, Idaho, whilst workers were boring an artesian well, a small figurine made of baked clay was extracted from a depth of 320 feet. To reach this depth the workers had to cut through fifteen feet of basalt lava and many other strata below that. That in itself does not seem remarkable, until one considers that the very top layer of lava has been dated to at least 15 million years old!

It is currently accepted by science and geology that coal is a by-product of decaying vegetation. The vegetation becomes buried over time and is covered with sediment. That sediment eventually fossilises and becomes rock. This natural process of coal formation takes up to 400 million years to accomplish.

Anything that is found in lumps of coal or in coal seams during mining, had to have been placed or dropped into the vegetation before it was buried in sediment.

In 1944, as a ten year old boy, Newton Anderson, dropped a lump of coal in his basement and it broke in half as it hit the floor. What he discovered inside defies explanation based upon current scientific orthodoxy.

Inside the coal was a hand crafted brass alloy bell with an iron clapper and sculptured handle.

When an analysis was carried out it was discovered that the bell was made from anunusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production (including copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium).

The seam from whence this lump of coal was mined is estimated to be 300,000,000 years old!

A hand crafted bell found in a 300 million year old lump of coal!

A hand crafted bell found in a 300 million year old lump of coal!

These extraordinary discoveries although bizarre, are not unique or even uncommon. There are literally thousands of them collecting dust, locked away from public scrutiny in the vaults of museums throughout the world.

There are many other unusual reported finds including the following:

The Morrisonville, Illinois Times, on June 11, 1891, reported how Mrs. S. W. Culp found a circular shaped eight-carat gold chain, about 10 inches long, embedded in a lump of coal after she broke it apart to put in her scuttle. The chain was described as “antique” and of “quaint workmanship.”

Displayed in a museum at Glen Rose, Texas, is a cast iron pot reportedly found in a large lump of coal in 1912 by a worker feeding coal into the furnace of a power plant. When he split open the coal the worker said the pot fell out, leaving its impression in the coal.

Yet another report found in the Epoch Times told of a Colorado rancher who in the 1800’s broke open a lump of coal, dug from a vein some 300 feet below the surface, and discovered a “strange-looking iron thimble.”

A cast iron pot found in a lump of coal.

A cast iron pot found in a lump of coal.

The Salzburg Cube is yet another ancient puzzle found by a worker named Reidl, in an Austrian foundry in 1885. Like the others, this man broke open a block of coal and found a metal cube embedded inside. Recent analysis established the object was of forged iron and obviously hand crafted. The coal it was found in was millions of years old.

The list of such items goes on and on and on.

Welcome to the world of Ooparts, or Out of Place Artefacts.

Out of place artefacts (Ooparts) are so named because conventional scientific wisdom (an oxymoron if ever there was one) states that these artefacts shouldn’t exist based upon currently accepted beliefs regarding our origins and history. These discoveries are “out of place” in the orthodox timeline of human history.

The usual methods of the conformist scientific community, when faced with such anomalies is to attempt to debunk their reported age, or perhaps endeavour to discredit the source of the report or even the reporter. If this approach fails then usually the artefacts themselves are banished to the shadowy vaults of museums and warehouses, never to be seen again.

If these unusual artefacts were “one offs” then perhaps one could be forgiven for accepting the view espoused by the mainstream scientific and archaeological community that they are hoaxes or misreported stories. However, when one realises that thousands upon thousands of these anomalous artefacts have been discovered and reported over the years, then one may need to re-evaluate ones acceptance of the integrity of mainstream archaeology and science.

Occasionally an honest archaeologist will attempt to reveal to the public the true age and origin of such anomalous objects. They will question the accepted beliefs of their mainstream peers. They usually find that their career ends quite abruptly.

Unfortunately, the majority just accept what they are taught in school and university without question. That is how our educational system is designed. It does not encourage individuality and originality. It purely indoctrinates one with established beliefs and dogma.

If one requires evidence of this “mainstream” mentality, one need look no further than the realms of psychiatry. Modern psychiatry seeks to demonize and declare mentally ill anyone who deviates from what is regarded as the norm.

These so called “mental health professionals” have even invented a new mental disorder named Oppositional Defiant Disorder, or ODD (love the irony of the abbreviation).

This newly invented condition is listed in the latest instalment of the industry’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, which dubs people who do not conform to what those in charge declare to be normal, as mentally insane.

So there you have your proof – I’m obviously an unmitigated nutter and completely insane. At least that is what those in authority would like everyone to believe!

Anyway, I digress.

On one side of the field we have the Darwinists and their theory of evolution, trying to establish the extremely flawed view that we have somehow evolved into highly intelligent sentient beings from a primordial blob of gunge, miraculously brought to life by an electrical storm billions of years ago. (Perhaps one of this cults followers could explain to me when “consciousness” evolved, and provide proof – I await with baited breath!)

On the other side we have the creationists with the belief that some omnipotent invisible being who lives in the clouds, waved his magic wand about 7,000 years ago and created the earth and everything on it. Again the adherents of this equally flawed theory rely on nothing more than a book called the Bible for their “proof” of this concept. The fact that this book has been bastardised during translation numerous times during its existence, has been re-written to certain individuals personal preference on a number of occasions, and has had many complete chapters omitted, is irrelevant to its followers. All they require is “faith”. Proof and evidence is not a prerequisite!

One couldn’t get more opposing beliefs if one tried, and both camps adhere to their beliefs voraciously, and with unshakable fervour. Yet neither are based on any kind of factual or hard evidence.

The reality is that the origin of the human race is a total enigma. No one, anywhere, actually knows how old humanity is or how and where it originated. It is a complete mystery. Yet from birth one is indoctrinated into one or the other of the above factions, with no questions asked or alternative opinions allowed.

The problem the mainstream has with these anomalous Ooparts is that they throw into question every single established belief there is regarding our past.

It seems that everywhere we look, we find things that contradict much of the scientific orthodoxy of today.  The scientific establishment will never acknowledge or admit that these artefacts are authentic.  To do so would be to admit that they are completely wrong about our origins, and consequently, invalidate all of the text books used to indoctrinate us and our children.

The discovery of Ooparts completely annihilates the [comparatively recent] theory of evolution. If, as this hypothesis would have us believe, modern humans only evolved 200,000 years ago (or thereabouts), one has to ask how man made artefacts, found in substrata originating millions of years ago, could be explained?

Alternatively, the advocates of creationism have a very quaint way of “acknowledging” the existence of Ooparts, and bizarrely, actually believe that Ooparts substantiate their world view.

Creationists just completely disregard the established dating methods, and declare every single recognized archaeological and geological process null and void. They would have us all believe that coal seams, rock strata, fossils, minerals, precious stones and every other antediluvian element, took only a few thousand years to form.

Yet the psychiatric establishment would have me labelled as the loony for questioning this baloney. Go figure!

There will no doubt be readers who, similar to predictable conservative archaeologists, and probably due to their indoctrinated belief system, will also dismiss the aforementioned Ooparts as hoaxes or forgeries. Perhaps they would like to consider and offer an explanation for the following.

It is an accepted belief that humans and dinosaurs did not co-exist. According to conventional academia, dinosaurs roamed the earth between 65 and 225 million years ago, whereas the earliest upright biped humanoid, homo erectus, only appeared about 1.8 million years ago.

However, in 1968 a palaeontologist named Stan Taylor began excavations of fossilised dinosaur footprints, discovered in the bed of the Paluxy river near Glen Rose, Texas. What he unearthed shocked and dumbfounded the scientific community. Alongside the dinosaur tracks, in exactly the same cretaceous fossilised strata, were well preserved human footprints.

Human footprints crossing 3 toed dinosaur footprints fossilised in the Paluxy river bed.

Human footprints crossing 3 toed dinosaur footprints fossilised in the Paluxy river bed. 

The immediate reaction of evolutionists, archaeologists, and science in general, was to debunk the find as a hoax. “They were carved into the rock by hoaxers” or “They are not human footprints, but more dinosaur footprints that have been eroded to look human” were the arguments most commonly proposed.

However, their line of reasoning falls somewhat flat when one asks why only the human prints were eroded and not also the 3 toed dinosaur prints? Additionally one has to consider, if the human prints were carved as a hoax, how did the hoaxers manage to carve further human footprints that continued under bedrock that was later removed from the side of the river bed?

Since the initial discovery, hundreds more human footprints have been discovered and unearthed, both in Paluxy and in many other places around the globe. Either those hoaxers have unlimited time and budget – or someone is telling porkies!

Next one needs to consider another find discovered in 100 million year old cretaceous limestone. A fossilised human finger, which was found along with a childs tooth and human hair. This finger has been subjected to numerous scientific tests and analysis. Sectioning revealed the typical porous bone structure expected in a human finger. Additionally a Cat-scan and MRI scan identified joints and traced tendons throughout the length of the fossil. This is one find that science cannot explain away as a hoax.

Cat-scan of a human fossilised finger shows dark areas showing the interior of bones and bone marrow, along with tendons.

Cat-scan of a human fossilised finger shows dark areas showing the interior of bones and bone marrow, along with tendons.

There is however another find of recent years that blows all of the others into a cocked hat regarding age.

Over the past few decades, miners near the little town of Ottosdal in Western Transvaal, South Africa, have been digging up hundreds of mysterious metal spheres. These spheres measure between 25 and 100 mm in diameter, and some are etched with three parallel grooves running completely around the equator. Two types of spheres have been found. One is composed of a solid bluish metal with flecks of white, the other is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance.

These spheres are reportedly so delicately balanced that even with modern technology, they would need to be made in a zero gravity environment to attain these characteristics. These objects have become known as the Klerksdorp spheres.

A Klerksdorp sphere

A Klerksdorp sphere

Geologists have attempted to debunk these artefacts as natural formations or “limonite concretions”. They fail to explain sufficiently how these formations occurred naturally with perfectly straight and perfectly spaced grooves around the centres.

Perhaps the real reason for such fervent attempted debunking by the scientific community, is that the rock in which these spheres where found is Precambrian – and dated to 2.8 billion years old!

Whether one wishes to accept these out of place artefacts as genuine or not is I suppose, down to personal beliefs.

Evolutionists refuse to accept them as to do so would mean re-evaluating their whole indoctrinated belief system. They will even stoop to producing outright fantasy in their attempts to discredit these discoveries. If that fails then they will just pretend that they do not exist, and then hide them away – forever.

Creationists on the other hand willingly accept them as some bizarre kind of proof that the universe is only about 7,000 years old, and totally ignore any evidence, from any source, to the contrary. They continue to cling to a medieval belief system based purely on blind faith. How quaint.

Personally, I don’t belong to either camp. I keep an open mind regarding our origins. I don’t have any particular “philosophy” on the subject but rather prefer to adapt my understanding as new evidence becomes available. My only current belief based upon all of the available facts to date is that the human race has inhabited this planet for millions of years longer than is presently accepted.

I realise that I will never discover the answer to the question of our origin. The human race has been searching for this answer since the dawn of time, and it still evades us.

Everything we have been taught in our schools and universities about our origin and history, is based upon nothing more than speculation and hypothesis. There is not a single provable fact out there that conclusively answers the question “where do we come from”

What I will continue to do however is question everything, and not just blindly accept any mainstream viewpoint because it happens to be fashionable at the time.

If that means one day I get a knock at my door from men in white coats holding a straightjacket, then so be it……

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34 comments

  1. simon

    I agree with the title, try reading the Qu’ran, the last and final word of God, you will find all the answers

    1. Jk4

      Qu’ran has nothing about it. It is already invalidated with these facts. Here we are taking about the history not the final word of GOD. What’s in the Qu’ran about the origin of human is null and void. (Completely lying)

      1. hudders

        I challenge you to find a single verse of quran that asserts any historical absurdity. Please. I agree with the other commentor that simons post is slightly missionary and useless. However the knee jerk reaction not based on knowledge of the subject is also not helpful.

        I am fascinated by this piece and will look into it. The quran says gives us examples of civilisations that came before and asserts that they are only a few of those who came before. And the Quran says that it is God that creates, and repeats.

    2. outcast1611

      Wow, how do you manage to shove religion into this? Fictional books hold no answers.

  2. MediaMagic

    Great article! Honest, educated and no agenda behind it! Thank you for sharing this valuable information so that educated minds can process this logically!

    1. dannyb

      Come on guys, think about it. Who is the archeological team, where is their data, how can a couple chisel so well without destroying the rock, why isn’t there more rust especially the straight lines in the iron, etc, etc. It doesn’t make sense…..sounds more like someone having fun and creating a hoax.

  3. woodpbmw48

    Just for shits and giggles get a copy of
    “EDGAR CAYCE’S STORY OF THE ORGIN AND DESTINY OF MAN
    by Lytle Robinson ASIN: B000NTLP0M

    then if you still have an open mind get a copy of Edgar Cayce’s Story of Jesus by Edgar Cayce and Jeffrey Furst

    Story of Edgar Cayce: There Is a River by Thomas Sugrue

    Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet Paperback
    by Sidney D. Kirkpatrick (Author)

    I grew up in various Newsrooms the Son of a prize wining Photo journalist who refused to allow a Television in out home. Instead there were wall to wall to ceiling bookshelves and a personal library totaling close to 20,000 volumes of non-fiction. I was not indoctrinated in any religion, political viewpoint or philosophy but told that each person needed to seek the answers to life’s quandaries on ones own. To constantly question, analyze and to discard those “facts” that didn’t fit or make sense.
    I had an out of body experience at the age of 20 which opened my eyes to many truths but none that I would care to convince others of.
    Sincerely
    Philip

    1. AnnePel

      Hi Philip:

      Just read your comments about Edgar Cayce. Have you heard of Douglas James Cottrell? Some people refer to him as Canada’s Edgar Cayce.

      Anne

    2. aanderson

      I’d genuinely love to hear about your out of body experience if you were willing to tell the story. If so, email me at [email protected].

    3. devinder

      thanks for your sincere efforts for betterment of mankind…I’d genuinely love to hear about your out of body experience if you were willing to tell me. If so, email me at [email protected]

  4. Trevor

    I used to accept the evolutionary view, till I became a Christian believer. I soon realized that the two did not fit together, so either one or both was wrong. I began to look in detail at the science behind evolution and the millions of years needed for this theory, and the archaeological and documentary evidence for creation. It did not take long to see that all the methods for finding dates for rocks, artifacts and fossils are based on unproveable assumptions. On the other hand the artifacts found in coal seams and sedimentary rocks fit in perfectly with the Biblical accounts of metalworking skills among the people living before the worldwide flood, and the sedimentary rocks themselves fit with that account too.
    It seems that I too should be waiting for the men in white coats!

  5. Nicetoday

    As a metallurgist I am always fasinated by iron pots or layers of rust found below neolithic sites. The explaination is usually
    that some kind of shaft or fissure opened up and the artifact dropped to the spot where it was found.
    Right!
    Convergent evolution has caused dolphins, marlins, and ichthyosaurs to have pretty much the same shape.
    LIkewise bipedal walkers who used and manufactured tools may have evolved independantly several times.
    An ax is an ax, and cruciable is a cruciable and a pot is a pot, weather what used it was primate or something else.

    BTW Since our muscles atrophy without exercise, unlike bears, and we have succeptablity to biofilm bacteria that other animals whose celluar energy cycle ends in asorbic acid do not suffer, and other primates do not suffer dementia in old age as we do, it has always seemed to me like we are an experiment hastely thrown together from tag ends. If we were intentionally designed the designer could have done it better.

  6. nitai das

    Very interesting.
    Graham, if you are really open minded to find the origin of man, you should try to learn the vadic version of history. In those encient scriptures we find descriptions of sivilazations

  7. nitai das

    Civilizations of millions and billions years old…. For example, there are 4 “yugas” yuga is a period of time. We currently leave in Kali yuga which is about 480000 years long. The previous yuga – dvapara yuga was MORE civilised and lasted double the time is Kali yuga. The one before that was treta yuga, was more civilized and lasted for about 1600000 years. And the longest was satia yuga , double the time of treta. people lived there for 100000 years. Try to learn about it more you’ll find there endless knowledge . My knowledge is very partial.
    All the best.

  8. Jim J. McCrea

    Darwinian natural selection assumes that life-forms are nothing but accumulated accidents or characteristics – nothing but heaps of physical characteristics.

    However there is an essential unity – an intelligibility – an essence to them.

    They are a unity of matter and substantial intelligible form.

    Given that, a Supreme Intelligence must have impressed that form on matter to make them what they are.

  9. kateofthenorth

    A well-written, compelling article, but I am left with one major question: Are there any examples of Ooparts found in the past decade or two? Carbon dating has made great leaps since the early 20th century and I wonder if scientists might have been a little off in their calculations. It is, of course, hard to argue with the fact that coal takes 15 million years or so to form.

    1. valentindk

      Agree with Kateofthenorth, one has to look at the scientific methods. C-14 is still not a precise method and is still undergoing adjustments, due to discussions on the biases of the scientists using this method.
      Besides, because a scientific theory can’t be proved with known tools of today, doesn’t mean it’s false.
      Our technological state of modern Man, has pushed evolution to a hault, wich makes it harder to monitor almost anything outside a lab. And evloution is pretty much proved. By Darwin himself. Species do adapt to the environment, by survival of the fittest(except Man, who’s able to bypass it). It’s well known, that the male DNA is very sensitive and often mutate, making changes in the inherited abilities. The result is, that some improve, some don’t. This goes on for generations and not from day to day(as some tend to believe in these fast times) In time a species will be the fittest and tend to adapt better.

      Regarding archaeology, it’s important to realize, that we only can know what we find. All the rest is not theory, but reasonable conclusions. Not truth, but conclusion based on known material. Religion has nothing to do in this discussion, except the one of scientists, that refuse to evaluate their own results, thus being just as diluted as believers.

      Asking ourselves, what these artifacts are and where they come from, is a valid question. Trying to reject science without a valid alternative, is too vague for me. One can’t just reject something, by saying ‘I just don’t believe it’. It’ll leave the author just as religious as the ones mentioned in the article.

  10. KoOni

    So, getting away from the “science vs. religion” bullshit; in this article it seems that a false dichotomy is being created, when in reality there are more possibilities than “all these examples are fake” and “these are proof that man existed earlier than we believe.” The first thing that we have to accept is that SOME (if not most) of these examples are probably not what we think they are (whether hoaxes or as yet unexplained natural phenomena or whatever). What matters though is not which ones are fake, but rather if any particular one of these ooparts is real; because all it takes is one to change our understanding of science.

    That said, even if one is true it does not prove that humans existed 60 million years ago. Considering all the science that does point to our timeline of evolution, most of these examples seem to point more to either the possibility of time travel, the possibility of prehistoric extra-terrestrial visitation, or (most likely, imo) the possibility that there were other sentient beings to have evolved in other ages before us. If the last one is the case we couldn’t know for certain even if such creatures were mammal, let alone human.

    Furthermore, I’ve got to take issue with your comment where you say “It is an accepted belief that humans and dinosaurs did not co-exist.” …it really depends on how you define “dinosaur.” The line between dinos and birds is looking thinner and thinner, with late theropods (including T-Rex and Velociraptor) most likely having feathered plumage of some sort. With that in mind one could say that birds are dinosaurs (in the same way that humans are primates) and therefor we still do co-exist. That still doesn’t mean humans were around more than 60-million years ago.

  11. Airie

    From what I have seen so far at various archeological sites, which do not fit into commonly acceptable scientific theories I have opened up another possibility of why some of these objects are found in such old rocks… or why some of the temples in Peru or Egypt or say… Bosnia are impossible to build with today’s technology… The possibility being the use of “higher technologies” or in other words “interdimentional” tools to bypass gravity and reshape matter at will.

  12. fxrsteve

    The way you slam evolutionists’ and creationists’ leads me to believe that you have ruled out both possibilities and therefore are not keeping an open mind as you claim.
    When trying to solve the riddle of human origins there are 2 possibilities. We either came about naturally or super-naturally.
    I agree that the scientific community is in a real pickle when it comes to dating but it would not be so if they acknowledged that there was indeed an advanced human civilization before the flood. Some in the science world are beginning to acknowledge that there was in fact a global deluge However until they can find a way to reconcile it with their evolutionary dogma they will only whisper about it in vague commentary.
    I would like to say that as a creationist I enjoyed your article and appreciate your intrigue.

  13. joshka89

    Ok. I am all open to new understanding of anything, we’ve already altered scientific beliefs many times but I have some major issues with this post, and anyone with any amount of sciencetific knowledge should as well.

    There are 0 sources sited, most of the “evidence” is anecdotal and heresay. The article then digress into playing into popular topics of politics which have no bearing on the subject ad a whole and breaks down into personal opinion with still no actual sources of information.

    Please, if you have real facts and real evidence I’d love to see it, otherwise this is just an opinion formulated on questionable circumstances,

  14. DTrig

    A very open mind- full of judgement and scorn.

    Not saying either side (or anyone in the middle) is correct, but that doesn’t mean they are WRONG.
    As you said, our origins are an enigma. Maybe we’ll never know. Maybe we already know parts of it.

  15. Alby144

    I find information like this absolutely fascinating! I have felt, for many years now, man has been on this planet much longer than most people think. What I love about this idea is that evidence of such just keeps on popping up!

    1. swisschoc

      You are quite correct. The concept that we have been here for some 7.000 years according to religious pricipals of the three main religions is just nonsense.
      Debunking religion is dangerous for most archeologists.
      Debunking Darwin, draws snorts from the so called scientific community.
      The Klerksdorp Sphere is well known, it exists.
      So have thousands of man made artifacts some as old as 2 billion years old.
      Some estimate that Earth became habitable some 5 billion years ago.
      Many agree that we are simply colonists from other planets.
      I disagree that we are feed animals. Simply because we have very large brains,which by the way is far more powerful than we actually know.
      The dinosaurs existed with man. They became extinct, some say due to climate change, some say many things, more than likely a meteorite did have some impact on climate change, but humans are far more capable of survival, than any animal.
      Place any animal outside its enviroment and it will surely perish.
      Humans live in the Artic, in the deserts and in the jungles.
      Good day.

  16. huddleheir

    I’m on the side of creation and I believe the earth is older than 7,000 years. There is no time period given between vereses 1 and 2 in Genesis 1. The church majority normally assume that it is all part of the one day. I recommend comparing the Moses’ vision that was given to him by God and the vision given to Jeremiah 4: 23-27. After reading that, read about the fall of Satan in isaiah 14: 12-15 and Ezekiel 28: 1-19. I conclude from this that I believe my human lineage to date back to Adam but seeing as how Satan fell before Adam, that the cities mentioned in Jeremiah were before Adam and that God destroyed the Earth into what it was like when Moses’ describes it. It’s the same science that dates scripture that dates fossils and such. This view is called a Pre-Adamite view and is not popular in mainline churches. Probably due to pride but that’s not the point. The point is that there is plenty of time between verses 1 and 2 in the Bible for fossils, dinosaurs and whatever. Satan fell before Adam was created, that alone should provoke questions as to how long before Adam? And Yes, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. He died for me and was resurrected so that I can spend eternity with God. And He did that for whomever believes in Him.

  17. peterpan

    This article asks many questions which we all would desperately want to believe in, including me. However the truly sad thing is that we have no way in proving any of this. When it is put on prime time news and shown to have the full backing of the scientific community, we can then believe, until then we can only dream.
    I have trawled the Internet many times on topics I believe in, from UFOs to Time Travel and there is plenty of evidence on the former which I can believe in but the latter one not yet. According to some websites President Obama was once part of a secret group time travelling to Mars and apparently Mars is suppose to be habited by beings and so too are other planets in our solar system. One CIA agent on his dying bed proclaimed to have been part of an elaborate group time traveling. My point is, as many of you will know, the internet is not a safe place for finding out the truth and this frustrates me, I’m sure, as much as it does you. I would like to know a lot more than we are currently only being allowed to know.

    So here we are still hoping to put the pieces of the jigsaw together. One day, hopefully sooner than later, we will have real hard evidence that is irrefutable but for now we have to wait…

  18. stuartk

    Very interesting article with many topics I had never known about before. However, to make it more than just a long list of illustrated assertions, we need references to the source material you used in your research. This is the internet, where you can make a link to background articles instantly. Please do provide some information will allow us to attempt to verify the points in your article without having to start from zero.

    Thank you.

  19. itcmark

    Thanks, Graham, for this new (to me) evidence. I knew about the spheres and footprints, but not the other stuff. Been documenting the discrepancies between science and things like the “Ica Stones” on my own sites in recent years…….
    http://www.macyafterlife.com
    http://www.noblesavageworld.com

    I look forward to your next installment a great deal!
    Keep plugging away. Science will have to relent eventually… when the truth becomes self-evident enough to break through even the most boggled of minds.

    Mark Macy

  20. jdd

    Mr. Pick does not appear well-versed with regards to the beliefs of at least some creationists!! First, not all creationists think that “some omnipotent invisible being who lives in the clouds, waved his magic wand about 7,000 years ago and created the earth and everything on it,” as he so condescendingly claims above. William Lane Craig, a well-known Christian philosopher, is outspoken about his belief that the earth’s age is “around 13.7 billion years or so” and points out that “there isn’t any biblical account of the age of the earth” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyOZRMIe768). Furthermore, elsewhere he maintains that “[t]he evolutionary history of the earth is ecological scene setting for the advent of human beings and the working out of God’s purposes among them. Through this evolutionary prelude to the appearance of man, God sets the stage as it were for the human drama that will then unfold” (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/defenders-2-podcast/transcript/s9-21#ixzz3DkfGdCsq).

    In addition, Mr. Pick’s knowledge of the scriptures is in error. In the video linked below, New Testament scholar Daniel Wallace explains the types of errors present in those manuscripts, aiding hearers in better ascertaining the reliability of today’s New Testament. Those familiar with the famous skeptic Bart Ehrman may find the following quote from this video intriguing: “In the appendix to [Bart Ehrman's] book Misquoting Jesus, he was asked by the editors, ‘Why do you believe these core tenets of Christian orthodoxy to be in jeopardy based on the scribal errors you discovered in the biblical manuscripts?’ His answer: ‘Essential Christian beliefs are not affected by textual variants in the manuscript tradition of the New Testament'” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lEmch2OAhs). And the Dead Sea Scrolls have been helpful in giving insight into the reliability of the Old Testament: “[T]he materials discovered at Qumran, commonly called the Dead Sea Scrolls, have provided impressive evidence for both the integrity of the Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts of the Old Testament and the authenticity of the books themselves” (http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=357).

    I do indeed hope Mr. Pick finds this information helpful in learning that many creationists have solid reasons for their beliefs! (For more, please research Alvin Plantinga’s work.)

  21. Muaddib

    Interesting. Citations? Credentials of those conducting tests? I’d like to believe but would appreciate the info to back it up.

  22. BikinBuddha

    The Universe cued me into this subject 30yrs. ago… I’m definitely going to delve into this again… Would love to have your help… Names, places, dates, etc. This could be the subject of a few books… I mean really, what’s so hard to believe… IF we went from APE to human in only 1.5m yrs. And the Earth has been kickin it for 4.5 Billion… It’s like Sagan said, “If we’re the only ones, what a waste of space.” Then that can be said of this belief, “If we’re the only ones, what a waste of TIME”.

  23. vrindasakhi

    While it’s understandable that it’s hard to believe for a western mind steeped in the mythology of the Bible to believe that ancient artifacts could be real because Christians’ scale of time is so illogically tied to the birth of Jesus. The scriptures and culture of India date back thousands of years. Look to the Vedic scriptures of India to explain these seemingly shocking artifacts. Life on earth – even human life – dates back millions of years. According to the Bhagwatam, the age of this planetary system is 4.32 million years old and is related to the “life” of the sun. Human life has always been on year…populations rising and falling depending on the climatic changes. It’s quite easy to understand that these items are authentic.

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